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Hello Friends,
This is my first time on the new Forum. I must confess I am missing the old Forum and am finding it quite hard to navigate my way in. Before I could get straight on without having to `log in`, and there was a better overview of all the topics discussed, both old and new. I suppose I will slowly get used to it. Being a computer illiterate, it is going to take some time.
My question to you today is: How would you react, if a stranger asked you about your RA? I was in a que in M&S today and next to me waiting was a young mother with a lively toddler and a baby in a pram. I am sure, she had RA, arthritic hands like me, struggling to lift the toddler onto the pram. I really wanted to say to her, that I sympathized with her, how hard it must be to cope with children and shopping etc. etc., as I know about the pain and exhaustion of RA, as I have it myself. But I did not say anything, because I thought, she might feel embarassed and maybe even angry, that I had noticed.
I often see people with what I think is RA. I want to talk to them, but I hold myself back. Would you be cross, if somebody approached you?
Merete
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Hi Merete I would not be cross but that is me I have seen people with what I think is RA I never say any-thing to them the thing is you just do not know what there reaction would be so I think you did the right thing hope that helps you take care Mary L
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Hi Merete, you're doing fine to have got this far on the new forum Personally I would not take offense, and like you also think I see people with RA. However, I only speak to people at the RA clinic as you never know when you're out in public how a person would react or what condition a person might have or not. If I'm able to and see someone struggling I'd offer a helping hand. Love, Barbara XXXXXX
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Dear Merete,
In my humble opinion I would be very happy for someone to ask me if I had RA? I am far less happy when someone says 'Why do you limp?'...
I suppose one has to be tentative as they may be incorrect but then, asked kindly and gently, it shouldn't really annoy/upset anyone too greatly.
Love,
Amanda
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I, like Amanda, would love someone to realise that I have RA rather than had an accident because I am now using a walking stick. Unfortunately I think there are so few of us (1% of the population) I think it would be rare to come across someone who recognised the symptoms. I was staggered to learn that each GP clinic only has maybe one known patient with RA and this is why they need to give urgent training to GP's so that they can recognise the symptoms. When I first joined my new GP practice, the GP said after a long consultation that he had learnt a lot about RA that morning by going through my records.
I find that RA can be very lonely, thank god for this site, and I would be very glad if someone approached me.
Jackie xx
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I wouldn't mind at all if anyone asked me, but I never dare ask anyone at the rheumy clinic. I can strike up a conversation with anyone anywhere , but at the clinic I somehow feel I would be invading their privacy if I asked if they have RA. I don't know why,perhaps it's just me!
Doreen xx
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I wouldn't mind at all if someone asked me if I had RA. I don't know whether I would deliberately target people to ask them, but if the opportunity arose then I am sure I would chat to them about it.
Glad you've found your way on here, Merete and good to see you posting.
Love Jeaxxx
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Hi, this happened to me a couple of weeks ago i was in Argos and the woman on the till asked me did i have Ra , she must of seen my hands, she told me her father had it and said its a horrible illness and was sorry for me as she said i was only young to have it, i told her id had it 14years, i didn't mind her asking at all. my younger sister was at a party and on her table she noticed a girl with Ra looking hands she said she was dying to go over and talk to her and tell her about me and that she understood about RA but when she asked her fiance he said don't in case she takes offence ,so i can see both sides. I always chat to people in clinic as its interesting to hear others stories and it makes the waiting time go quicker x
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Hi,I wouldn't mind someone asking me if I had RA, although wouldn't be brave enough to ask the question incase I was wrong and upset them. Once asked a hairdresser when her baby was due ooops! she wasn't pregnant! Kathleen
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I wouldnt mind at all. But I can understand that some people might be offended. I dont talk to people in the clinic either, everyone always looks fed up, and its always a long wait (1 1/2 hours) that you feel uncomfortable to talk to them. As for GPs I am sure thats right, they dont know much, mine refused to even do a rheumatoid factor test for 7 months, insisting thsat I only had OA. That was with seeing 3 different GPs during 9 visits in 5 months. Does anyone know why they are so averse to doing a simple blood test? My mother had RA, so surely its worth a simple test!!! BARBARA
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hi good topic Id love it especially help when out and struggling,i do start up conversations at clinic now i ben going for while.though usually after my appointment and while in xray or pharmacy. as tend be needing focus on appointment beforehand or i get very anxious.i have to sit stil; telling self to be calm. otherwise im jittery with rheumy and need be clear commincative state lol. not easy takes judging whether ok or not inky07 cuddly cats make my world seem so much more fun
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Hi,
Thank`s for all your replies. I can see, most of you would`nt mind, if the person asking showed genuine concern. As for talking to other patients in the rheumy clinic, I usually find it quite easy to strike up a conversation. Not only does it make the time of waiting easier, but I have even made 2 friends, who I now see regularly.
What happened to Kathleen happened to me last week. I had my hair done, and my usual girl appeared rather fat round the midriff. I asked, if she was expecting, and she replied: `No, I have put on a stone!!!` Gosh, how I felt embarassed. I wont say that to anybody again, ever!!!!
Merete
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Oh no Merete! This happened to my Mark once and he has never ever asked another lady if she is expecting , even if completely obvious!
The Tesco delivery man once asked me when I was due when I had just had a baby (two weeks old!)...I nearly fainted!
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Quote: "I was staggered to learn that each GP clinic only has maybe one known patient with RA and this is why they need to give urgent training to GP's so that they can recognise the symptoms." Like Jackie, I was very surprised about this and I wouldnt take offense if someone approached me about RA although mine not too visible nowadays with medication. One of my worst places is always at the queue in a shop especially if i use change, need to open plastic bags etc. Nowadays, i tend to use my card more often but when i first had RA i found this really difficult also because some people seem to just think u r clumsy / time wasting - everyone is often in such a hurry so if someone approached me i would have been glad. When i first had symptoms over 12 years ago i think i was probably depressed - my mum had just died in tragic circumstances and major flare started few days later, i had two very young children and felt no one understood what i was going through and felt really alone. So i think say something kindly, definitely say something, u might be the only person that has really understood their situation. Nowadays i manage quite well but i make a definite point of talking to shop assistants, explaining RA symptoms a little and hope this might help them be more sympathetic when they do have customers with problems like RA. Very good topic Merete, and yes i'm guilty of the the baby comment once too and just like Mark, never again! ;)
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I normally dont mind at all! I think it is possibly because I feel well supported through the forum and confident to talk about RA. Sometimes I might gently ask if they have heard of NRAS, and encourage them to join. Jenni x how to be a velvet bulldoser
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I don't mind strangers asking me whether I have RA. Only the other day an eldery man approached me in Tesco's and asked had I had a hip replacement (I was on crutches). We had a chat about it and it turned out his elderly wife needed one but she was put off because she thought she would be forced to do the Clexane injections (in stomach) herself. I told him they don't make you do it, you can ask your DN. There's a guy at my son's kayaking club who approached me 2-3 years ago and very politely asked did I have RA, he'd noticed my hands. It turned out his wife has it and from that we sparked up a conversation and now every time I go to watch, he'll come over, ask how I am and tell me about his wife. He's very knowledgeable about the disease and drugs etc. I think if you ask politely, most people wouldn't mind. Say something like, "I hope you don't mind me asking, but do you have RA, I noticed your hands?" If they object, then all you can do is apologise. Carol
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May I make a suggestion re GP's? I have spoken to the Sister and my own GP and they are very interested in NRAS. Several of the health professionals have indicated that they would like to join and they have also asked me to get together NRAS literature to take down to the surgery for all their patients. When I go next time, I'll offer to chat to the HP's about RA in general and NRAS. I actually approached this by saying that I have loads of literature specifically about RA and the RA drugs from a charity called NRAS and would they like to know more! They both said yes!
We have also made a start on making up NRAS bundles for the Rheummy Clinic. The consultants and staff have offered to hand out literature to all the patients.
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Hi Merete,
Glad you've found the 'new' Forum. Yes, it is different but you will get used to it.
With regards broaching the subjectt with a stranger, I would probably approach it thus: "I see you've got your hands full there. I don't know how I'd cope with a lively youngster as I have RA."
This way, you leave it open to the other person to reply affirming they too have RA.
Bob
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Hi there, I think bobs approach is the best. cos if somebody asked me if I had RA I would be taken aback and not sure how I would react. Whereas if somebody said to me that they had RA it would give me the choice to say or not. Would feel less put on thet spot! Somepeople can be open about it and I dont like to discuss it outside the forum, nras, or consultants. PS I have been having problems trying to access the forum too due to technical problems
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I wouldn`t mind is anyone asked me if I had RA, but would probably hesitate to bring the subject up with someone in a shopping queue - Bob`s idea is a good one. Once when we were out I noticed a lady with a Fischer stick like mine, and wished afterwards I`d spoken to her. I was once in a pub a few years ago, and someone obviously noticed the scars on my legs from Achilles tendon surgery. She asked if I`d had them both repaired, and when I said yes, she told me that she had too, but that my surgeon had done a better job as my scars were much neater than hers! Kathleen x
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